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		<title>by: Heather Corinna</title>
		<link>http://www.femmerotic.com/journal/2007/03/23/undermining-women-with-a-lens/#comment-6351</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 03:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thanks so much for the directions: the Frida exhibit was really fantastic, and I'd suggest you go see it. (And that bus to Tacoma: holy CRAP, have I never been in such a cushy bus in my life!)

For those clueless as to WTF we're talking about, there's an exhibit at the Tacoma Art Museum right now that is just portraits done OF Frida Kahlo.  (I actually have a blog entry in my brain about this, so I'll be brief.)  Suffice it to say, as a portraitist AND someone who loves Mexican art, and particualrly Kahlo's work, it was a serious treat.  Not every day you can look at a ton of pieces of one subject, particularly one who you know a good deal about.

And I loved that they had Weston and Cunningham's portraits of her hung next to each other, because I'm a silly romantic like that. :)

I miss you, girl: let's set a date to get together soon, please?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for the directions: the Frida exhibit was really fantastic, and I&#8217;d suggest you go see it. (And that bus to Tacoma: holy CRAP, have I never been in such a cushy bus in my life!)</p>
<p>For those clueless as to WTF we&#8217;re talking about, there&#8217;s an exhibit at the Tacoma Art Museum right now that is just portraits done OF Frida Kahlo.  (I actually have a blog entry in my brain about this, so I&#8217;ll be brief.)  Suffice it to say, as a portraitist AND someone who loves Mexican art, and particualrly Kahlo&#8217;s work, it was a serious treat.  Not every day you can look at a ton of pieces of one subject, particularly one who you know a good deal about.</p>
<p>And I loved that they had Weston and Cunningham&#8217;s portraits of her hung next to each other, because I&#8217;m a silly romantic like that. <img src='http://www.femmerotic.com/journal/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I miss you, girl: let&#8217;s set a date to get together soon, please?
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		<title>by: Lioness</title>
		<link>http://www.femmerotic.com/journal/2007/03/23/undermining-women-with-a-lens/#comment-6345</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 02:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>This is really timely. I'm visiting a DEAR friend in Portland - we both started exploring photography around the same time. My photo stuff died with the end of darkroom access, while she just opened her first show. We both dig teh photo-art.

We were in Powell's a few hours ago and browsing through the photography section. She snagged a book of &quot;Erotic Photos&quot; and we grabbed a table to flip through it. It's a pretty hefty book - several hundred pages - and COMPLETELY disappointing. Usually in a book that size I can find at least a few dozen photos that appeal to me, but here there were maybe two.

Looking through that book illustrated, more than anything else, how Exactly The Same every photo was - all women by themselves or with other women, all white, most looking up or shyly down, thin, porn-y type bodies . . . it was really disappointing. I guess it stood out to me so much just because it was SO MUCH of the same over and over.

Oh, hey! Did you make it to the Frida exhibit? How was it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is really timely. I&#8217;m visiting a DEAR friend in Portland - we both started exploring photography around the same time. My photo stuff died with the end of darkroom access, while she just opened her first show. We both dig teh photo-art.</p>
<p>We were in Powell&#8217;s a few hours ago and browsing through the photography section. She snagged a book of &#8220;Erotic Photos&#8221; and we grabbed a table to flip through it. It&#8217;s a pretty hefty book - several hundred pages - and COMPLETELY disappointing. Usually in a book that size I can find at least a few dozen photos that appeal to me, but here there were maybe two.</p>
<p>Looking through that book illustrated, more than anything else, how Exactly The Same every photo was - all women by themselves or with other women, all white, most looking up or shyly down, thin, porn-y type bodies . . . it was really disappointing. I guess it stood out to me so much just because it was SO MUCH of the same over and over.</p>
<p>Oh, hey! Did you make it to the Frida exhibit? How was it?
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		<title>by: Heather Corinna</title>
		<link>http://www.femmerotic.com/journal/2007/03/23/undermining-women-with-a-lens/#comment-6331</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 23:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Dude, Laurie just left a comment here.  Yeep!

::fangirl squeal::

Okay, I'm better now.

Verra interesting.  Mind, I should probably have qualified my observations by saying the vast majority of men I have photographed were either friends or lovers, and/or were not generally gendernormative.  Not sure if that matters, but it might.

If your subjects in that book were uncomfortable, I didn't see it, but then I'm betting that you likely have a pretty awesome vibe.

And my kingdom to have older people in the studio here.  If I celebrated Christmas, I'd make that my Christmas wish every single year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, Laurie just left a comment here.  Yeep!</p>
<p>::fangirl squeal::</p>
<p>Okay, I&#8217;m better now.</p>
<p>Verra interesting.  Mind, I should probably have qualified my observations by saying the vast majority of men I have photographed were either friends or lovers, and/or were not generally gendernormative.  Not sure if that matters, but it might.</p>
<p>If your subjects in that book were uncomfortable, I didn&#8217;t see it, but then I&#8217;m betting that you likely have a pretty awesome vibe.</p>
<p>And my kingdom to have older people in the studio here.  If I celebrated Christmas, I&#8217;d make that my Christmas wish every single year.
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		<title>by: laurie toby edison</title>
		<link>http://www.femmerotic.com/journal/2007/03/23/undermining-women-with-a-lens/#comment-6327</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I _really_ appreciated what you said about my work.  Thank you.


About photographing men:  My experience, as you said, is that straight men are much more relaxed about how they look.  But men are not used to the idea of  being photographed in the nude and have no &quot;internal tape&quot; for it. When working on &quot;Familiar Men&quot; (my book of male nudes), I found that they were mostly harder to get to relax and be &quot;themselves&quot; compared to most women.   I wasn't a problem since they did relax and get comfortable enough, but it definitely took more work on my part to make that happen.  Interestingly, almost all the older men (over 60)  that I photographed were remarkably comfortable.    Of course, shooting friends is different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I _really_ appreciated what you said about my work.  Thank you.</p>
<p>About photographing men:  My experience, as you said, is that straight men are much more relaxed about how they look.  But men are not used to the idea of  being photographed in the nude and have no &#8220;internal tape&#8221; for it. When working on &#8220;Familiar Men&#8221; (my book of male nudes), I found that they were mostly harder to get to relax and be &#8220;themselves&#8221; compared to most women.   I wasn&#8217;t a problem since they did relax and get comfortable enough, but it definitely took more work on my part to make that happen.  Interestingly, almost all the older men (over 60)  that I photographed were remarkably comfortable.    Of course, shooting friends is different.
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		<title>by: Heather Corinna</title>
		<link>http://www.femmerotic.com/journal/2007/03/23/undermining-women-with-a-lens/#comment-6304</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It might be a while: I have serious photo-backlog right now.  I'd estimate that I have about a good 700 photos to go through from over the last few weeks.

Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be a while: I have serious photo-backlog right now.  I&#8217;d estimate that I have about a good 700 photos to go through from over the last few weeks.</p>
<p>Sigh.
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		<title>by: Ariel</title>
		<link>http://www.femmerotic.com/journal/2007/03/23/undermining-women-with-a-lens/#comment-6302</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Reeeeeally. Interesting! Regardless, can't wait to see...when might the trial shots be on Flickr?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reeeeeally. Interesting! Regardless, can&#8217;t wait to see&#8230;when might the trial shots be on Flickr?
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		<title>by: Heather Corinna</title>
		<link>http://www.femmerotic.com/journal/2007/03/23/undermining-women-with-a-lens/#comment-6301</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Actually, we photographers tend to make the WORST subjects.  In short, we know too much, and we're way too used to having control over everything.

But Ben was an exception to that rule.  I'm not, but he was. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, we photographers tend to make the WORST subjects.  In short, we know too much, and we&#8217;re way too used to having control over everything.</p>
<p>But Ben was an exception to that rule.  I&#8217;m not, but he was. <img src='http://www.femmerotic.com/journal/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: Ariel</title>
		<link>http://www.femmerotic.com/journal/2007/03/23/undermining-women-with-a-lens/#comment-6300</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I can't wait to see your shots of Ben ... it makes perfect sense that he'd be a great subject, given he's such an amazing photographer himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait to see your shots of Ben &#8230; it makes perfect sense that he&#8217;d be a great subject, given he&#8217;s such an amazing photographer himself.
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