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		<title>by: Zelig</title>
		<link>http://www.femmerotic.com/journal/2007/10/26/various-and-mutlifarious/#comment-23648</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;someone who is not just not a rapist, but the antithesis of a rapist. So, what’s the word for a caring, reciprocal sexual person or partner? &quot;

Beats me. I don't know how well I succeed, but I have tried to be that person and found it is hard to explain to the person I am with what on earth I am doing. I've ended up explaining more than once, &quot;I'm just very attuned to issues of consent&quot; in trying to make sure that the person I am with (my lover?) is making a positive choices. [Now see, that came across as paternalistic]

It's frustrating. Not only is there not a term to cover the behavior, I don't even think we have a well defined concept for what it is. It's just very awkward to communicate. I often have to give a bit of my own personal history with these issues just to even explain where I'm coming from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;someone who is not just not a rapist, but the antithesis of a rapist. So, what’s the word for a caring, reciprocal sexual person or partner? &#8221;</p>
<p>Beats me. I don&#8217;t know how well I succeed, but I have tried to be that person and found it is hard to explain to the person I am with what on earth I am doing. I&#8217;ve ended up explaining more than once, &#8220;I&#8217;m just very attuned to issues of consent&#8221; in trying to make sure that the person I am with (my lover?) is making a positive choices. [Now see, that came across as paternalistic]</p>
<p>It&#8217;s frustrating. Not only is there not a term to cover the behavior, I don&#8217;t even think we have a well defined concept for what it is. It&#8217;s just very awkward to communicate. I often have to give a bit of my own personal history with these issues just to even explain where I&#8217;m coming from.
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		<title>by: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://www.femmerotic.com/journal/2007/10/26/various-and-mutlifarious/#comment-23539</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;Is putting them in one pile on the nightstand good enough, or are you really supposed to hide them?&quot;

Flamboyant cosies and cases to the rescue!

&quot;the antithesis of a rapist&quot;

i sometimes talk about collaborators, but agreed, we could use a powerful, positive word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Is putting them in one pile on the nightstand good enough, or are you really supposed to hide them?&#8221;</p>
<p>Flamboyant cosies and cases to the rescue!</p>
<p>&#8220;the antithesis of a rapist&#8221;</p>
<p>i sometimes talk about collaborators, but agreed, we could use a powerful, positive word.
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		<title>by: Lea</title>
		<link>http://www.femmerotic.com/journal/2007/10/26/various-and-mutlifarious/#comment-23276</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 23:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>(or rather, should I say, that person- just checked and realised you never stated their gender! oops!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(or rather, should I say, that person- just checked and realised you never stated their gender! oops!)
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		<title>by: Lea</title>
		<link>http://www.femmerotic.com/journal/2007/10/26/various-and-mutlifarious/#comment-23275</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 23:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Gotta love how that lady was so concerned about HPV, yet you just KNOW that should someone ask her opinion on Gardasil, she'd be all scandalized about how they want to vaccinate children with it... pff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta love how that lady was so concerned about HPV, yet you just KNOW that should someone ask her opinion on Gardasil, she&#8217;d be all scandalized about how they want to vaccinate children with it&#8230; pff.
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		<title>by: Heather</title>
		<link>http://www.femmerotic.com/journal/2007/10/26/various-and-mutlifarious/#comment-23268</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>You know, in many ways I wish we could reclaim &quot;lover,&quot; because it does say the critical bit very concisely, so long as we don't mean romance when we say love, which I think is what makes it not very useful for YAs, alas. :(

Per your Q, in thinking on it, in situations like that for me, I was always more prone to make it active rather than give it a title, as in &quot;we're dating,&quot; or &quot;we're sleeping together,&quot; than to say someone is my .  But then, from a personal standpoint, I often try and resist the &quot;my &quot; just because it's so tough for them not to come off as -- or be internalized as? -- possessive.  I do like tryst.

But lover sure could be good for that if it works for you, no doubt.  But in this context, I feel like we so often have lover qualified with good or bad that that also makes it problematic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, in many ways I wish we could reclaim &#8220;lover,&#8221; because it does say the critical bit very concisely, so long as we don&#8217;t mean romance when we say love, which I think is what makes it not very useful for YAs, alas. <img src='http://www.femmerotic.com/journal/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Per your Q, in thinking on it, in situations like that for me, I was always more prone to make it active rather than give it a title, as in &#8220;we&#8217;re dating,&#8221; or &#8220;we&#8217;re sleeping together,&#8221; than to say someone is my .  But then, from a personal standpoint, I often try and resist the &#8220;my &#8221; just because it&#8217;s so tough for them not to come off as &#8212; or be internalized as? &#8212; possessive.  I do like tryst.</p>
<p>But lover sure could be good for that if it works for you, no doubt.  But in this context, I feel like we so often have lover qualified with good or bad that that also makes it problematic?
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		<title>by: Emily</title>
		<link>http://www.femmerotic.com/journal/2007/10/26/various-and-mutlifarious/#comment-23264</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Here's another question while you're thinking about language: in conversation with a bunch of cool queer poly women, we were having trouble coming up with what you call someone who you're having sex with, is not your primary partner, is not secretive (we tried tryst but that seemed secretive) and is not dismissive (ie, fling). Lover? I dunno, we're all young(ish) and we use lover. . .It's a quandry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another question while you&#8217;re thinking about language: in conversation with a bunch of cool queer poly women, we were having trouble coming up with what you call someone who you&#8217;re having sex with, is not your primary partner, is not secretive (we tried tryst but that seemed secretive) and is not dismissive (ie, fling). Lover? I dunno, we&#8217;re all young(ish) and we use lover. . .It&#8217;s a quandry!
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